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brettbrandon

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New Wide Mixer
« on: June 25, 2018, 03:42:54 AM »
Here's a new version of the Basic Wide mixer.
I'm calling it Basic Wide Compact Loaded...
It has the standard controls plus,
Gate De-ess Comp, switches/indicators and meters.
Pan and EQ window.

I was thinking about making one more about the same height but with the Gate De-ess Comp threshold controls as well.


« Last Edit: June 25, 2018, 07:02:16 AM by brettbrandon »

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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2018, 06:18:20 AM »
Hi Brett,

Now that we have a “pot assign”, you may consider making that pan pot be a multi-function control, with the command of 0xffd0.  It defaults to pan, but can be other things also.

Is there a way to take the same thing you have here, and just make it narrower also?  Sometimes I need a lot of visible channels on the screen.

Bob

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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2018, 07:00:32 AM »
The pan control isn't marked as such so all you would have to do is change the command.
How does that "pot assign" thing work anyway?

I forgot to mention if folks wouldn't mind posting their preferred resolution and channel counts. That will give me some idea what widths to aim at...

The Basic Wide mixers fit 25 channels plus a little on a 1920 width screen.
The Basic Blue Minimal fits 34 channels plus change... I was thinking of updating this one as well.

I also just finished a small vertical version of the toolbar.



BTW, the Toolbar wdl's don't seem to be accepting image widgets...
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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2018, 07:36:14 PM »
There's a Pot Assign WDL in the Mix Selection windows.  It works by giving you six different functions that a pot (specifically on a control surface, but also on the WDL) can do.  It defaults to Pan, but can be:

Gain, Pan, Level, Low-Cut Freq, Aux Send levels, etc.  It's actually pretty cool on the surface, because 6 buttons on the surface control these.  Currently, the only WDL with this configured with pots is the 16-Monitor Mixer.

Bob


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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2018, 05:43:16 AM »
On a 1920 screen, this will fit 33 channels plus side tabs...



One more to go in this series. It will fit 49 channels plus the side tabs.
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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2018, 07:25:34 PM »
On a 1920 screen, this will fit 48 channels without the side tabs...



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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2018, 08:53:19 PM »
These look really nice Brett.  One more nice option to use. 

Sorry for the delayed response here but typically I run at HD resolution 1920 x 1080.  Any typically I would like somewhere between 32 and 48 channel strips on the screen at the same time.  But I often use Tabs to split that up so that 32 strips wide works on all but the largest hassles of a show.

I am curious how many of these channel strips fit on your 4K monitor.   :)
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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2018, 12:20:08 AM »
Thanks Richard,

My screen is basically four 1080 HD screens. 3840 x 2160.
I'm changing the names of the mixers to,
Basic Wide Compact 73
Basic Wide Compact 57
Basic Compact 39

Channel counts on my screen are 95, 65, 51.
The numbers in the mixer names are the width's of the channels in pixels.
Except for large channel counts, you should be able to divide your screen width by that number and get approx channel count for that mixer. The couple few pixels in between the channels, add up in larger counts and can subtract a channel or two...
These also just use a swatch for the background so elements can be rearranged without needing the background changed.

Here's a screenshot of all three mixers open across the screen and lots of other things.

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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2018, 12:50:03 AM »
I like that small one!  That will really come in handy.  So that gets you almost 48 channels on a 1920-wide, it sounds like...

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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2018, 01:44:25 AM »
Without the tabs on the side, it just fits 48 channels.
The mid size one fits 33 and the wide fits 26 (without side tabs).

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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2018, 06:47:22 PM »
That's awesome.  I love the screen shot.  I am moving getting a 4K display closer to the top of the wish list I think.
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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2018, 08:40:16 AM »
I did some reworking on the small one and even removed thirty some pixels in height...
I added a numerical readout for the pan.
I moved the dynamic meters next to the name and level meter. Also moved the level meter to behind the channel name (not sure how folks will like this, but I think it's cool).
I also toned down the channel colors and level meter color.



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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2018, 02:46:35 AM »
Hmm, interesting idea of using the label with the meter behind it...

I did modify the others you sent me - fixed up the Midi Controller Indicator.  Can't forget about that! :-)

Also, I changed the pan to use the 0xFFD0 "pot selection", which will default to pan, but can be used for other things also.  I think this is probably our desired future for the "pan" control.

Bob

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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2018, 07:42:10 PM »
I see there has been some additions and changes since last working on things. This is one of them.
What is and what is the purpose of the Midi Controller Indicator?
Are there graphics that are used with it?

Is the "Pot Selection" for pan used on all slot types now?

I really wish there was a list of all widgets, what window types they work with, and all possible command parameters available for each...

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Re: New Wide Mixer
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2018, 02:34:07 PM »
The Midi Indicator shows you what channels are mapped to your control surface, and which channel they are on. You can set up a couple controllers in the config and see the results. Graphics are just a color background (resistor color code per controller), with a number on it.

The Pot selection thing is somewhat new, and I think offers a bunch more flexibility in the mixer. Quite a few digital mixers employ this same idea in their control surface. There is also potentially a button that can go with this, but that code has not yet been tested.

The website has a current listing of all widgets I believe. Let me know if there are ones you don’t see up there.

Bob